This is pretty much what it says on the tin - Fully Finished Studio Outtakes. Fifty of the buggers. I say pretty much because you'll hear some obvious demo/studio jamming material here, but mostly they're finished (or nearly so) songs. JCC, who found them in a shoebox under a motel bed in Kankerville, DE, has this to say: "From what’s being termed as a ‘Japanese Fan Club
release’, a new 3 CD set is being touted. Judging by the track list, a
few have already have been released, there are many that haven’t and are
making their premier. Scanning the tracklist below, this set could be
as thrilling as ‘Foxes In The Boxes’ or ‘Static In The Attic’ for new
and polished great sounding Stones outtakes. Enjoy @320"
So our thanks to JCC, and all the copyright-dodging ganefs before him who made this possible.
I'm not the Stones expert but I still think this is a different-but-similar leftover collection of copyright extensions...
ReplyDeleteOr, it's all of similar vintage...
Or, both!!!
Either way... Will the REAL Stones expert please step forward?
I played the first 15 tracks...
DeleteNothing sounded familiar!
It's mostly fantastic. Nobody, but nobody, makes the beautiful noise the Stones make. All they need is half a song, but back when they were working pop songwriters, Nanker/Phelge were quite as good as Lennon/McCartney, Pete Townshend, and Ray Davies. God, I love this band.
DeleteThe material is surprisingly good.
Deleteno band makes me happier or angrier.
DeleteLove it when you're angry! Your eyes goin' all beady an' red ... it's cute!
Deleteand thank you for this. so many tracks i never knew. you've ruined my know it all status. i have a covid vax coming up in about a week. i think i will save your gift for my line wait.
DeleteThanks very much: a real treat!
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome! The world needs some Stones right now ...
DeleteBest bit of Rolling-Stonery me ears 'ave 'eard for a while guv'nor. Gawd bless Mr Jaggery and his pals.
ReplyDeleteA few years ago, we were out at a local restaurant and there was a guy sitting across from us, eating by himself. He looked very familiar, but I couldn't place him. When he finished his meal, he spoke to the waitress in a very subdued, but distinctly British voice and then it hit me, Charlie Watts. He had come to NO to view a drum exhibit at the Jazz Museum that was located about 3 blocks from the restaurant.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the Stones, Farq!
I think a little of Charlie's glamor rubbed off on you. And by extension, us.
DeleteI just wanna know his drug regimen. Guy looked incredible, given his age, activity and body abuse.
Deletequero me inscrever para ter acesso ao download
ReplyDeleteCan someone help Jose out here? Any Spanish speakers?
Deletehaga clic en los labios en la primera publicación
DeleteThanks for this...one can never have too many Stones in their collection!
ReplyDeleteHabla espanol, por favor? Jose needs help finding the link.
DeletePushing boundaries here: Jose, boca plana más arriba. For all ye English-mastering folk looking for both sensible and crappy comments & more: try these thread links at iorr.org: https://iorr.org/talk/read.php?1,2805685 AND https://iorr.org/talk/read.php?2,2805669 . Good luck finding your meat.
ReplyDeleteThat's impressive!
ReplyDelete50 tracks...
50 titles...
50 dates...
And nobody knows anything about them!
Perhaps, jcc is really Santa Claus.
What is even more strange is that I listened to the first 16 songs
and didn't recognize any of them but liked all of them.
Are the song titles and dates accurate?
How is it that all the songs are keepers?
I can hardly wait to hear the rest of these.
Thank you, jcc...and...farq!
Film at 11:00!!!
Better than The Beatles.
ReplyDeleteOther very nice Stones outtake/unreleased "boots" with very good to excellent audio:
"The Rolling Stones Pro Master Series" covers the late 60's to the late 70's
Anything "released" by "Mickboy for Torn & Frayed" these are remixed and remastered by Mickboy of officially released Stones albums, that are two CDs with better audio (seriously) plus outtakes, unreleased and live cuts. Look for:
*"Main Street Revisited - Exile on Main Street"
*"Short And Curlies" - It's Only Rock 'n' Roll
*"From Rags To Excess" - Black 'n' Blue
*"Dancing So Free" - Goat's Head Soup
*"Get What You Need" - Let It Bleed
*"Tastes So Good" - Sticky Fingers
*"Mentholated Sandwich" - Beggars Banquet
*"Only when It's Frozen" - Mickboy's love letter to Brian Jones era Stones with audio that blow your brain.
"Think I popped a button on my trousers". . . "Thank you very much, indeed!"
ReplyDelete“Charlie's good tonight, innee!”
Deletefarq,
ReplyDeleteis that your fancy graphics on the front cover?
(just curious since it seen elsewhere)
The good (or dubious) word is that there is two more 3-CD sets of similar material headed this way.
Not guilty. Kwai.
DeleteWhen I was in my mid-teens ... that would be'64 - '67 ... I had a friend called Johnnie. He is long dead. He would wear a greatcoat with a toothbrush in one pocket and a pair of socks in the other, in case we stayed over. I wore a parka, I think. He was a real Stones fan. Whenever they released a new LP I would walk with him on a Saturday in our Welsh border town and approach anyone we vaguely knew to beg them for a penny so that he could buy it. I can't remember how many pennies were needed to total 32/6 but I think it worked for Aftermath.
ReplyDeleteJohnnie would be amazed to get free tracks all these years later so I have downloaded them in his memory.
Thanks.
Cheers, Peanuts Molloy.
Fantastic post, Farq! Thanks
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome, FGW.
DeleteThe Reverend Dr.Baz remembers the good ol`days when the price of a concert was about a third of the price of an L.P. whereas these days the music is relatively cheap but concerts are expensive.
ReplyDeleteI saw that up & coming beat combo The Rolling Stones in Bristol, England in the early sixties. The unique thing about this gig was that Mr.B.Jones forgot to turn up _ I think Mr.Jagger proffered some ridiculous excuse for his absence. This was a great dissappointment as we believed Mr.Jones was The Rolling Stones. Instead of his excellent gob iron manipulation we had to make do with Mr.Jagger`s amateur playing (I still think Mr.Jagger isn`t very good on the harmonica). Nevertheless The Stones quartet delivered the goods & we got our 10 bob`s worth.
Around the same time (With The Beatles was about to be released) I saw The Beatles.
Them was the days. Thanks again Mr.Throckmorton III for your excelllent work & taste. The Reverend Dr Baz
P.S. can Peanuts Molloy pass on my regards to Mr.Horace Rumpole.
Thanks for the memories, bazmania, but have you heard Jagger's harp playing on Blue And Lonesome? Sounds pretty swell to my ears.
DeleteMick's as good as anyone and better than most.
DeleteThe files available for d/l at iorr.org are VBR ~160, so how come these are @320? Did JCC have a different source or did he upscale the VBR files?
ReplyDeleteAnswer...if you dare!
DeleteIs the human hearing range of sensitivity suddenly being revived?
It will all be subjective after that.
If those 50 tracks were really from Satanic Majesties...Beggar's Banquet...
Let It Bleed...
I don't care if they are 160 VBR.
But, nobody can confirm such things.
(without drawing suspicion to their own beings)
Good luck...
Reading the convo at IORR is like being in a squirrel cage wheel.
Actually it's pretty easy to confirm such things. All you have to do is go to iorr and download the files to confirm they're 160 VBR. Next, compare their tags to the tags of the 320 CBR files: they're identical, right down to the "Walk With Me Wemdy". Finally, go to spek.cc and download Spek – Acoustic Spectrum Analyser. Use Spek to compare the 160 vs 320 files: they're the same.
DeleteConclusion: JCC downloaded the 160 VBR files from iorr and re-encoded them at 320 CBR to make them appear to be of higher quality than they are. And in case you don't understand why re-encoding is bad, it means making a mp3 of a mp3, i.e. a lossy encoding of an already lossy file.
This is hilarious, Rudolf! :
ReplyDelete"It's pretty easy [sic - Ed.] to confirm such things. All you have to do is go to iorr and download the files to confirm they're 160 VBR. Next, compare their tags to the tags of the 320 CBR files: they're identical, right down to the "Walk With Me Wemdy". Finally, go to spek.cc and download Spek – Acoustic Spectrum Analyser. Use Spek to compare the 160 vs 320 files: they're the same".
Fantastic. If you can't tell the friggin' bitrate by using yer friggin' ears, you don't need to know the friggin' bitrate! For the record - JCC did not try to disguise the real bitrate - he got the files from someone else. Quit whining fercrissakes and enjoy the music!
First, thanks for sharing the music; it probably wouldn't have come to my attention otherwise -- or at least not for a while. Second, while it might seem like I'm cavilling, in my opinion I'm only doing what I do with most of the music I download, and frankly I'm disappointed that the minimum effort seems hilarious to you, since it suggests you take a cavalier approach to the material you share.
DeleteI admit I can't tell bitrate by using my ears, which is why I try to ensure I get original files. Why should I clutter up my hard drive with inferior 320 CBR copies when the original 160 VBR files are half the size? If you have to pay for the storage space to host these downloads I should think you'd be concerned with file size, too.
I once asked another blogger if he had flac copies of some mp3s he had posted; he then proceeded to provide upscaled flac copies of the mp3s! When I asked him why, he never responded. In case you're not aware, the internet is awash in music posing as higher quality than it really is.
Finally, I don't know JCC from Adam; all I know is someone upscaled the 160 VBR files.
That's me - the Laughing Cavalier Of Music Curation.
DeleteSeriously, though, Rudolf, I don't give much of a shit. This Stones collection sounded fabulous to me, and still does, regardless of spectrum analysis. The Stones sounded fabulous to me back when I listened to them through a deaf-aid earpiece attached to a cheap transistor radio, beamed from a pirate radio station. They sounded fabulous when I was playing stereo albums on a mono stack-spindle record player. They sounded fabulous coming from a car radio. I didn't know about bitrate waveforms back then and I would have given the same shit I give today (which is - not much of a).
If some digital deviant is upscaling bitrates from lossy to lossless, would you call that a false flac operation?
DeleteJonder, please write a piece for th'IoF©. If your own swell trading card isn't inducement enough, I can sweeten the deal by throwing in my sister.
DeleteFarq's in the basement
DeleteMixing up a mixtape
I'm on a storm grate
Thinking bout the bitrate
Bootleg cheaters
Hang around the theaters
Don't follow leaders
Watch the VU meters
Bottleneck, bottlenose
Watch out for the plain clothes
You don't need a spectroscope
To know which way the wave flows
This is the most emotionally draining verse I read since William McGonagall's The Tay Bridge Disaster.
DeleteI'm blushing. I will consider your offer, but keep your sister (please!)
DeleteStrange coincidence, I was unfamiliar with said poet until this week when I read an article titled "The McGonagall Syndrome". The Tay Bridge Disaster reminded me of a poem published in our student newspaper when I was an undergrad. It was written in response to the Challenger disaster of 1986. It began with this immortal couplet:
I saw the Space Shuttle go up
I saw the Space Shuttle blow up
He should have quit right there. Brilliant.
Delete>If some digital deviant is upscaling bitrates from lossy to lossless, would you call that a false flac operation?
DeleteI would call it counterbeiting.
(Sorry, it's the best I can do.)
It's good enough, Rudolf! Sorry if you felt I was taking a pop at you, but bitrate beancounters will not be at home on th' IoF©.
DeleteI'm sure you've have to put up with a lot of shitposting over the years, so I don't take it personally. Had I known these files would be all over the internet in fake lossless format in a few days I wouldn't have brought it up at all, but at the time I thought the only two sources were here and iorr.
DeleteNo, shitposting is virtually unknown here. The Four Or Five Guys© may be a bunch of nogood freeloadin' bums, but they are also standup guys. There's a couple of exceptions - UncleB has continuing issues with not being a pain in th' ass, and there's an "anonymous" dude out there who weighs in from time to time, not fully understanding that "anonymous" doesn't mean untraceable or unidentifiable. Other than that, we're all sweethearts here.
DeleteThank you, Rudolf!
ReplyDeleteI do understand the bit-rate relevance at hand. I'm just prioritizing my points of interest. I would rather establish pedigree and provenance since bit-rate only applies to tracks that fit my own criteria. Jcc would not dilute the wine. My experience is that he would share them as he received them. I was hoping that someone could help establish the:
1. Vintage of the tracks...
2. When the spruce up began...
3. What project was this done for (copyright, bonus tracks, super deluxe edition)
The hive mind at iorr is busy pondering those questions. Of course knowing the original bitrate would be one more clue to finding answers.
Delete@Rudolf...
DeleteAhhh...the 'hive mind'!
That is a great line. Now, try to imagine that I am the FLAC advocate around here. So, when the preliminary determinations are made, I will then know which stuff I want to archive(FLAC)...
Well, if the speculation is correct that the stolen files were only 160 VBR to begin with, then flac copies will be unnecessary. Does anyone know where the person who posted them on iorr got them from?
DeleteThe Reverend Dr.Baz issues a belated apology for his rash statement concerning beat combo member Mr.Jagger`s competency on the mouth organ. Such outbursts are a hold over from his tenure as a high school history teacher where he employed the strategy of making contentious statements in order to provoke meaningful discussion.In consequence the question most often posed by his students was "Are you on drugs?" to which he replied "you need to speak louder as I`m colourblind" (Refer to his unpublished masterpiece " Mixed up classroom confusion - Zen & The Art of Pedagogy") As the Rev is apt to say "Thus endeth today`s lesson."
ReplyDeleteAw, you spoilt our fun! We wus gonna pants you at th' Science Fair.
DeleteIllegitimate?
ReplyDeleteMy parents could read!
I must be blind. Where is the link to DL?
ReplyDeleteStaring at you in the kisser!
ReplyDeleteApparently I've clicked on everything BUT the link. What's wrong with me?
ReplyDeleteNothing wrong with you! As you say, you've clicked on everything but the link - so by Holmesian deduction, that which remains unclicked must be the link! (HINT: see them smackeroos up there in the comment? Them red lips? All the same, ain't they!)
ReplyDeleteNow that I've humiliated myself before the entire cyberstonesphere, thanks !!
ReplyDelete