Tuesday, June 27, 2023

Nothing Guilty About These Pleasures Dept. - Rodgers n' Hammerstein

Dames, yesterday. There ain't nuthin' like them.

The term "guilty pleasure" is usually invoked when that pleasure doesn't coincide with accepted norms of hipness. A guilty pleasure tactically reveals your sentimental side, adding warmth and likability to your persona. Musical pleasure (and that's what we're talking about - restrict your confessions to this area please as th' IoF© is monitored by various government agencies for your own security) is just that; we add the guilt or hipness as a cultural complication. Pleasure is mostly instinctive, untutored, and we like what we like. And I like this.

Your mom, yesterday, with your real father
Rodgers & Hammerstein famously met at a yard sale in Poughkeepsie, where they wrassled goodnaturedly over an unused electrical spat whitener in its original box. They were soon writing the most successful stage and motion picture musicals of all time, and that success carried over into album sales. South Pacific was not only the first stereo long-playing LP, years before domestic players were available, but in the album charts for thirty-one years [can this be right? - Ed.]. It was estimated that every household in the Western hemisphere owned at least two copies, one kept for display purposes draped in a lei [mystic straight line connecting holy sites in UK - Ed.]. You might have been conceived at a South Pacific-themed party, or more likely in a stage door alley during the record-breaking theatrical run of Oklahoma, but that's not something you want to think deeply about. Enough facts.

Horse's ass just out of shot
These are tunes. Songs that seem like old friends welcoming you home. Sentimental without being camp. Smart lyrics, lush arrangements that never sink into easy listening cheese. Superior in every way to opera, which were just shows for the rich to talk through. The true Golden Age of the musical, art for the masses, before the form fell to the brittle cleverness of Stephen Sondheim, who couldn't find a tune if it was up his ass on a fork, or the Happy Meal leftovers of Andrew Lloyd-Webber, who was smart enough to use tunes written for him by a bunch of dead guys.

'Fess up in the comments. It's not like anyone cares.







This post funded in part by Sven Olaf Smörgasbörd MD, author of "How To Not Visualise Your Parents In The Act Of Conceiving You"

56 comments:

  1. Deliverables (the above two elpees) when I find meself in th' mood.

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  2. And Capt. Sensible covered "Happy Talk."

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  3. First 4/5g© to answer the question posed in the piece (SPOILER: it helps to read it) wins a signed copy of "How To Not Visualise Your Parents In The Act Of Conceiving You"

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  4. I saw ‘Oklahoma!’ with my parents in 1955, it was all very exciting for eight-year-old Babs. We took a cab from Brooklyn Heights to the Rivoli Theatre on Broadway in Manhattan. ‘Oklahoma!’ was shown in 70 mm, which was very high-tech for its time. Afterward we went for drinks, and I had a “Shirley Temple” (club soda and the "juice" from a jar of maraschino cherries), that was served to me in a martini glass.

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    1. i eventually liked the music when i forgot the dreadful movie. i can only remember long sections of solid blue and red tints. that movie seemed longer than a wait for christmas to my 9 year old self.

      and ezio has never been easio on my ears.

      my guilty pleasures are certain songs by people i hate.

      damn my tapping foot!

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  5. Guilty pleasure: The Carpenters

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    1. From when th' IoF© was funny:

      https://falsememoryfoam.blogspot.com/2019/09/cage-fight-saturday-last-exit-vs.html

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    2. My money would have been on Iron Path.
      Peter Brötzmann shed his mortal coil last Thursday.

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    3. Yes, Carpenters are guilty pleasure in excelsis!

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    4. considering his music, do you think that a peaceful sleepy checkout was what he wanted?

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    5. For those unfamiliar with Peter Brötzmann, here's 'Machine Gun', arguably his finest work.
      https://workupload.com/file/eyv8a7FT7jS

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    6. Never got to see Last Exit in the flesh but did see PB with UK avant-prog outfit B-Shops For The Poor in the Cleethorpes-disco-like upstairs room of a pub somewhere behind Oldham Street in Manchester 1990. An unkind 'critic' likened it to a herd of elephants, ignoring the very apparent order and tricky time-signatures in the stampede.

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    7. There's nothing, more miserably inadequate, than critics out of their depth.

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    8. You clearly haven't seen me trying to get a tee shirt on the right way round.

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  6. I was in a high school production of South Pacific. As Sailor #5 I had no real speaking part, but I was the guy who dumped the pail of water on Nellie Forbush so she could wash that man right out of her hair.

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  7. My parents record collection was not large and the only lps that I have kept of theirs are Ella in Berlin and the Oklahoma soundtrack.

    Bizarrely my father had a Nellie Lucher record and after he had had a few was given to belt out "Hurry on home to my house baby aint nobody home but me"
    No idea how he had heard of Nellie Lucher, who I don't think was exactly a household name in the rural community of the North East of England. Sadly, I don't know what happened to the record but I didn't inherit.

    I have just searched the IOF archives but can not find a reference to her. I don't suppose that Bab's Bottomless Basement would yield anything?

    My guilty pleasure : Barclay James Harvest

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    1. I almost forgot this one.
      'Our New Nelllie' from 1956 and reissued in 2022.
      https://workupload.com/file/y3e8ULBWD84

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    2. Ahh Miss Babs, how do you do it? Your municifness knows no bounds.

      Real Gone is the very lp that my Dad had, even down to it being the UK release on Music for Pleasure.

      Thank you so much (yet again) and also for the artwork, it must be 50 years since I read... "Place the record on the turntable select 33 ⅓ and in no time you will hear Nellie Lucher "Real Gone". "

      I well remember the surprise I felt in 1976 when I went to see Kevin Coyne and he sang "My Mother's Eyes".A fellow Nellie Lucher fan, presumably

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    3. I thought that might be the release your Father had. I bought it used (in mint condition) in a record shop in Bristol (UK) in 1973.

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    4. Can we not, given the sponsor of this piece, talk about the release his father had?

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  8. We like what we like, that’s all that really needs to be said. Visiting the IOF and hearing the recommendations from the 4or5 guys has turned me only quite a few musical gems I would otherwise have not discovered, no guilt involved.
    ELO are often in the guilty pleasures isle, so I’ll say their run of mid to late 70’s albums, but really it’s Derek & Clive Live or Come Again - I really shouldn’t listen to this puerile filth.

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    1. I enjoy Eldorado very, very much. It has a weird magic about it that the other albums don't.

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    2. ELO was the first group I went for enough to chase down all their LPs circa 1980. Funnily enough 'Eldorado' was the only one I never really hit it off with.

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  9. My guilty pleasures are activities which are shameful and below the criterion set by human decency, and far graver than liking showtunes (which i do), and grooving to mid-period Supertramp, Hall and Oates, and elevator-quality jazz-rock fusion.

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  10. Overall, in terms of music and storyline, 'South Pacific', is my favorite by Richard and Oscar. That said, purely from a music and lyrical standpoint, my favorite is 'Carousel'.

    https://workupload.com/file/NSsgzaySaxv

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  11. We listen to oodles of EZ Listening, Vocal Standards, and Show Tunes here without the slightest bit of guilt. I turn a deep shade of red however whenever I find myself tapping a foot to any popular music from the 80s (e.g. anything that would have been on MTV or in a John Hughes movie for example).

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  12. All I wanna know is why you shot the horse in the ass. Or words to that effect.

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  13. Okay Farq, I will fess up. I take issue about your disparagement of Sondheim. In addition to being an excellent lyricist, Sondheim was a great melodic writer. One of the all time Broadway greats. (I also disagree with your dismissal of Opera, but that is a discussion for another day). Despite that, I love your blog - sarcasm and all plus lots of good music.

    Gbrand

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    1. There's no sarcasm here. I don't say "ooh! Sondheim can really write great tunes!" when my meaning is the opposite - that would be sarcasm.

      But a lot of otherwise well-meaning people love Sondheim.

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  14. How did Oscar H evade McCarthy? "You've Got To Be Carefully Taught"

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  15. Guilty pleasures? Swing out Sister, altough I find them a fine jazz-tinged pop group.
    Thanks for all the writing (foreplay) to entice readers into the music, Farq.
    Something for the 4 or 5 in return.
    Bat
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaFOKts5mEo

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  16. Speaking of Jock Razz, here's Frank's new Funky Nothingness set @ a pre-stomped 320:

    https://workupload.com/file/FTbMUnNkh42

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    1. Thanks for Frank, Farq. I was not aware of this.

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    2. Greatly appreciated, Farq!!!! You da' man!!!

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    3. Wow, this was an unexpected surprise; I had no idea this existed -- thanks!

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    4. It didn't exist until today! ;-)

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    5. I've taken the liberty of re-hydrating these mp3 to glorious lossless 24-bit 96-whatsits for the discerning listener who may want to enjoy the full spatial ambiance of the recording studio with their convenience store megabass earbuds. It also provides the added delayed gratification of having to wait several minutes to download and unpack the files before filing them away in some dark corner as well as the opportunity for Farq and other working stiffs to re-compress them at a less flamboyant bitrate of their choosing.

      https://mega.nz/file/xGYyQSiJ#0heBZhuBbF1Yk-SRdDXvvlBNxopMfexnflQgattRGhI

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    6. (not actually transcoded in case your in doubt)

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  17. Whatever happened to this entry's premise? (translation: where the Hell is Oklahoma and South Pacific, then?)

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