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Jack th' Bruce isn't so much depressing as serious. Scots are genetically incapable of frivolity. A Scot's smile is a rictus grimace; his laugh a death rattle. Bitter? You'd be goddamn bitter if forced to wear skirts, toss cabers, dance from the waist down and eat sheep bladder in the rain for the amusement of your smirking English overlords. Bruce broke with native tradition by sobering up enough to find work south of the border with popular beat combo The Creams, but it's his solo albums he put the most into, and we get the most out of.
The tri-ology of albums from '69 to '74, Songs For A Tailor, Harmony Row, and Out Of The Storm is an extraordinary artistic statement. The music is uncompromised by cliché, market forces, current trends, genre categorisation, or a desire to be liked (or get laid - usually a prime motivator). It's not an easy job, evolving music out of the blues-rock tar pit of the 'sixties, but someone had to do it. His remarkable voice comes more from the lieder tradition than rock - these are unapologetically art songs - and his limber, jazz-rooted bass enables song-writing structure beyond the remit of pop. Add Pete Brown's dream-logic lyrics, contributions from the best musicians in the business, and something monumental is created.Conventional critical wisdom - that idiot - relegates Out Of The Storm to third place, but it's entirely consistent in quality and integral to the tri-ology. The bass playing on Timeslip defies analysis and comprehension - you can follow, but never predict. Leave us face it - this stuff asks more investment from the listener than air-punching and Confederate yelps. Bruce isn't playing down for anybody (as he sometimes had to) but persistence pays dividends, and once you're in, you're in for life and your world is a better place.For once, the covers are up to the task, setting an appropriately dark, reflective mood. Dark, reflective, demanding, but never depressing. Shiny. Things only shine in the dark. Like stars.
As an amuse gueule, here's Timeslip, with its trip-stumble bassline:
It's 03:50 hundred hours o'clock a.m. in the morning here.
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DeleteLate as ever!! 7.20 am!!
DeleteJust a note - the Artificial Intelligence debate is still raging in the comments to the WTF?!?! piece, so make yerself dizzy scrolling to find the new stuff!
ReplyDeleteJack's song 'Weir of Hermiston' can get stuck in my head for days. I read the Stevenson novel in high school.
ReplyDeleteI read a Steven Van Zandt interview, in which he said, "When we play gigs in Japan, everybody shouts BLOOOSE!"
"Weird Of Hermiston". Not trying to gotcha, Babs, just maintaining the high standards of factual accuracy for which th' IoF© has become a byword.
DeleteWhilst this has absolutely nothing to do with the post, I have noticed that Steely Dan's Aja has been re done by Analogue. Love to hear that.
ReplyDeleteOff-topic posts are jake with me as long as they have some point to them and a name attached. Having said that, I don't care much about nuances in sound quality.
DeleteHere's an off-topic everyone can get behind: the Stones GRRR Live! @320
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They are still (and forever) the Greatest Rock n' Roll Band In The World, and this is one of their very best live albums. Astonishing!
Fantastic. Also, to continue your diatribe vis-à-vis, and pertaining to, us sweaty socks, the number one karaoke choice on the Isle of Skye is, of course, "Hey! Macleod! Get offa my ewe!". Boom boom!
DeleteIt is a fantastic recording. I confess to manfully fighting back the tears during the band introductions.
Deletelet's just say that you are right. and also thank you.
DeleteThey don't make a fuss, do they? They just get out there and play the best rock n' roll songs ever written, sounding fantastic, looking weirdly great, and having the kind of unselfconscious fun only rock n' roll delivers.
DeleteOK, I'll be the dissenting voice. I was at this show in Newark (where the Passaic River caught on fire), New Jersey in December 2022. If you can suspend belief that most of Mick's vocals and ALL of Keef's and Woody's guitar are not overdubbed, yeah, then it's a great show. Listen to the CD on an actual stereo system, instead on a computer, or a phone with blue tooth buds @320, and the overdubs become painfully obvious. Also, the driving source in a Stone's show, should be Keef's rhythm guitar, not Chuck Leavell's Yamaha CP4 Stage digital piano.
DeleteYes, they are, and always will be the greatest Rock n' Roll Band!
I'm no audiophile by any means, but I wanted to hear what the fuss was all about. Aja was an album that came out at a time that ticked almost all of the boxes for me and I listen to it quite often. I listened to the Pet Sounds Analogue LP and noticed a slightly fuller sound, but maybe that was because I'd just had my ears flushed at the Docs. (imaginary laughing boy emoji included).
DeleteThis is (one of the reasons) why I don't miss my high-end component system. Live albums - even the best of them have been tweaked in the studio since tweaking in the studio was invented. One of my favorites, Live Spirit, has Randy California very obviously adding a second - maybe a third - guitar track. I don't care. Too Late To Stop Now, for many years praised as a "pure" live album, apparently had remedial surgery. I don't want a live album to sound like I'm in the audience - there are audience recordings that bring that experience to life, complete with that fabulous spongey enormodrome sound and in-yer-ear commentary from some boozed up twat steadying his phone on your head. I don't listen to "aud." recordings, but I do like a good-sounding live album that's been made fit for human consumption. And as far as the Stones go (apparently on forever) "every vocal [on Get Yer Ya Yas Out] was overdubbed (save for Midnight Rambler) and a copious amount of guitar overdubs." Do I care? Should we care?
DeleteThere's probably a boot of this Stones show out there that reveals all the sonic failings of the source material, if you're into *cough* documentary purity. No thanks - I'll take this, and I'll enjoy it like I enjoy Ya Yas, as a great Stones live album.
While the mix does push Mick's vox and the guitars up front, I'm not hearing any overdubs here, and I think it's unlikely given the video source, where synching would be at the least problematic. But even if it is, Ya Yas and Got Live and probably most Stones live albums have been "sweetened" in the studio, so I don't see/hear the problem.
DeleteYou can defend all you like, but I still think it sucks.
DeleteThe accompanying Blue Ray video is entertaining, AND overdubbed.
This may be of interest. The sleeve notes explain all.
DeletePersonally, I don't care what overdubbing is done - it's not as if you can usually get the originals for comparison. Unless you have stuff like this...
Originally on Willard's Wormholes, IIRC.
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Babs, if anyone can reliably hear overdubbing, it's the snowflake ears at steve hoffman. They've been discussing the video and analysing it in their nerdy way for quite a time, and last I looked (yesterday), not one of them had discerned any overdubbing. They would have pounced savagely on it if it was there and ripped the whole deal to shreds on that basis. They're pretty complimentary about the sound quality, the only issue they manage to create is in the remix (of course it's remixed) which pushes Mick's vox and the guitars up to the front. Also - synching overdubbed sound to a video isn't impossible, just extremely difficult, and would be evident to those who looked and listened for it.
DeleteI've also done extensive internet research on the subject (the usual ten minutes) and can find no other claims that any overdubbing is present at all - leave alone all of Mick's vocals and most of the guitars.
I'll wait until there's a discussion on the album at hoffman (the album's not officially released yet) but is it likely that an undubbed audio track from a video would be replaced by a dubbed version for the CD?
(SteveSharks's download has valuable information on Love You Live).
My promo copy and press kit (low friends in high places) arrived Thursday.
DeleteHere's a recording of the 2012 gig that GRRR was taken from. As far as I can tell, it's taken from a Pay Per View broadcast at the time. It's excellent quality and may be "untouched". I could sit down and do an A/B with GRRR, but I can't be arsed!
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And here's another version - again, great SQ. It's getting murkier the more I look. One of the two versions I've posted is an AUD, apparently. If so, it's a very good one. The other, AFAIK, is a rip of the original TV broadcast. But which is which?
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From Hoffman on Saturday: "I got the 3LP set in the mail yesterday - surprisingly great sound and mix."
DeleteI think we can disregard Babs' voice-in-the-wilderness claim about overdubs. If they haven't been mentioned on Hoffman, they ain't there. I blame those disco-style hoop earrings she wears, picking up interference from a Chinese spy balloon.
My problem - being a Libran - is that I can see this from both sides. On one hand, as long as something sounds good, that's fine by me - regardless of later tinkering. On the other, I can also see why leaving things alone might be better. I mean, where do you stop? What about that fluffed note Miles played? Mebbe we should just sort that out ...
DeleteMebbe we should be talking about a live album that actually has been overdubbed? That would be a good start. My choice is 13th Floor Elevators Live - every note is overdubbed onto an applause track. Kinks - Live At Kelvin Hall. Kenny And The Kasuals - Impact.
DeleteI have a "live" BB King album like that.
DeleteYeah, that's right, Babs knows nothing about music and audio.
Deleteknowledge is the root of all unhappiness.
DeleteThanks for the GRRR and the extended Love You Live, but sorry, I'll be sticking with Brussels Affair 1973 radio boot if I want live Stones.
DeleteI've always rated these bootlegs:
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Oh definitely - the Brussels show is primo live Stones. The guitars worked so well in that band.
Deletewow... huge thread here with many side topics.
DeleteOk, first up... Farq - you mentioned Spirit Live, so I have to check... have you heard the Spirit Of '84 album? Highlight is a sort of "live in the studio" jam where they got some guests to join them and everybody went wild for about 8 minutes of I Got A Line On You. It's sort of a forgotten album otherwise, but that track is a wow oh wow moment for Spirit fans.
On the overdubs of live albums... I don't mind minor tweaks, and in some cases I like the major edits too. But at some point it stops being a live album and becomes an album.
Tangerine Dream has two examples that are perfect pros and cons. In 1975 they took bits and pieces of recordings of a U.K. tour (where everything was improvised), added sections and overdubs in the studio, and released it as their album Ricochet.
Flip side... in the late '80s they released an album they called Livemiles. Side one was allegedly from a concert in New Mexico from 1986, while side two was from a concert in West Berlin. It's hated by many fans for the simple reason that not a single note from side one actually came from a concert. The whole thing was a studio concoction. Ditto for one section of side two.
For whatever reason they took new pieces of music and put it on a "live" album as if it had been played on their tour. That was just utter stupidity on the part of band leader Edgar Froese, especially considering the actual West Berlin show (which was performed as part of the 750th anniversary of the city of Berlin and broadcast on FM radio in Germany) was an amazing show.
All in all, I can appreciate most live albums even with heavy edits, but I have a greater appreciation for the "warts and all" albums and especially those from full concerts. For the Stones, I'll take Steel Wheels Live over Flashpoint every time, but I'll take the bootleg version of that same show (Atlantic City 1989) over Steel Wheels Live. And for Tangerine Dream, I'll take the FM broadcast of the West Berlin show and leave my CD of Livemiles on the shelf.
The comments have always been the heart of Fabulous False Memory Foam© Island. It's pretty amazing that there's so little of the snarkiness the internet seems to encourage. Only Babs gets out of hand from time to time (she's from New York - *eye roll*).
DeleteI have three metric shitloads of Spirit albums - all iterations - and they've been my favorite band (along with a few others) ever since I heard Give A Life, Take A Life on the Fill Your Head With Rock sampler, and I couldn't believe how beautiful it was. They're unique among bands (for me, anyway) at being equally brilliant before and after a profound shake-up. Have you seen The Model Shop? They have (minor) speaking parts in that movie, as well as contributing the soundtrack. Nice movie, too. I'll do a loadup should youse bums be desirous.
Two live albums I'd like to mention.
DeleteKing Crimson, Earthbound recorded (onto cassette) and released in 1972, was so rough and raw Island record label only released it on their budget Help label. Sounds good enough to me though.
Peter Hammill and K Group, recorded a live double album in 1983. What is interesting, there is no applause between tracks. The quote on album cover 'No applause, and no overdubs - This is what happened on stage'. Obviously there was applause from the audience after each song, but they chose to present a 'live' album without it.
Bambi, Joe Jackson's "Big World" album was recorded live but with no applause. JJ asked the audience to not applaud for a few seconds after each number until told to. Perhaps Hammill did a similar thing.
DeleteI have the 2017 "Earthbound" issue and it's a big improvement over earlier versions. although it's still very "flat" sounding.
Ha, yes I have that JJ album Steve, I forgot there was no applause on there as well.
DeleteAmusing side note about Model Shop... writer/director Jacques Demy wanted then-unknown (circa June 1968) Harrison Ford for the lead role. Columbia nixed it because they didn't have confidence in Ford's abilities to be a leading man.
DeleteWhat’s you call me?!? Mr. Freeloadin' Bum fracking the internet in your insensate greed? Nailed it Farq! Thx for the insightful analysis and for enabling my hoarding disfunction obsession.
ReplyDeleteAnd theng kyew for the appreciation, rev.b - most of the cheap slobs who wash up here either don't or can't read. Their loss. I can't offhand think of anyone writing about pop as entertainingly - or insightfully - as me, in all modesty. I'll add the link here after I've 'ad me lunch, innit. In the mean time, frack the latest Stones [above - Ed.]. I hope "Th' Boss" gets to hear this ...
DeleteHeeeeere's Jack!
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Oh, Jack Bruce! Lovely stuff, and thank you muchly. I didn't know there was a third album to match those first two.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome, Mister Muster. Thanks for the comment. Out Of The Storm wasn't particularly well-received on release (Songs For A Tailor got a vicious kicking, especially from our pals at Rolling Stone) but it's steadily gained its due appreciation.
DeleteThere's no pleasing some people, is there? After all, it was Landau's RS article which helped hurry Cream's demise. He described Clapton as a master of cliche and didn't like the extended jamming.
DeleteGiven that several of the Tailor songs would have been on a putative fourth Cream album, it's possible that such a release would have been more to Landau's liking.
And what was RS expecting from JB? An album of 10 minute jams?
SFAT is just bloody great and RS can just do one.
Good sales pitch, including the Scots joke line. Haven't heard any solo Bruce (this one, not that one), so this should be interesting.
ReplyDeleteThis is an acquired taste, but not all that difficult, and subtly addictive.
DeleteJack...lucky to see him twice in his later years. I first heard him through his appearances on Michael Mantler's uber-bleak rock-lieder dates.
ReplyDelete'Folk Song' off 'Harmony Row' (and its lovely revision on 'Monkjack') will haunt me forever.
Michael Mantler is one of those arty-type musicians I wince away from - Carla Bley is another. That irritating guitarist who deconstructs the meaning of "playing the guitar" is another. Fred Frith?
DeleteMM is pretty light on fun though he has done some stupendous stuff. He started off in Jazz but many of his later dates have rather more of a Rock/Classical crossover flavour, thanks to the presence of Robert Wyatt, Jack, and even Marianne Faithfull, along with prominent angstful electric guitar parts from Rick Fenn a.o.
DeleteHis ex-wife Carla was one of Jack's two keyboardists for a big 1975 tour, as well as being a major Jazz composer in her own right.
That quote sounds like it could be Fred. Certainly he sometimes plays guitar in a way that sounds thus.
Here's a vinyl rip (not mine) of MM's 'The Hapless Child', musical settings of the works of Edward Gorey, with Wyatt telling the stories over a stellar instrumental cast -
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Here's Mantler and Bley having fun on Nick Mason's 1981 debut solo album. Chris Spedding on guitar...links in nicely with (Jack) Broooce!
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Here's Carla having fun with Steve Swallow and Andy Sheppard.
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*winces*
DeleteA live album that lacks underdubbing:
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For Elvis fans only.
DeleteThanks! I only had Songs for a Tailor and some other later stuff so this is a most welcome addition to the library
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