You're probably way ahead of me with this one, so tell me - will it hold up after the stunning first episode?
Mission Statement: to do very little, for very few, for not very long. Disappointing the easily pleased since 1819. Not as good as it used to be from Day One. History is Bunk - PT Barnum. Artificially Intelligent before it was fashionable. Fat camp for the mind! Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost. The Shock of the Old! Often bettered, never imitated. "Wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein" - Pauly Shore.
I'm not ahead but just discovered that it existed yesterday. We've got it bookmarked to watch ASAP.
ReplyDeleteStarting out great isn't that difficult, it's the narrative build and resolution that's always the problem. Severance? Started out brilliantly, tailed off into an uninspired muddle. Remember DEVS? Me neither. We'll see if Pluribus goes the same way, but my feeling is that the first series will serve mainly as preparation for a second (and so on) rather than deliver a great story with a satisfying end. It's the problem inherent in the form. But looking forward to e02 today.
ReplyDeleteFor the most part, true enough, but the one difference is that this is Vince Gilligan of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, leaps and bounds above the series you mentioned. I'm willing to bet it pays off. -Muzak McMusics
DeleteFor the most part, true enough, but the one difference is that the series you mentioned aren't SF.
DeleteOff topic but…. @Muzak McMusics. Thanks for the Alejandro Escovedo - With These Hands link, I wasn’t familiar with his work before, thank you, sorry it’s taken me two weeks to listen to it.
Deletetwo episodes watched. invasion of the body snatchers once again only this time it's woke lesbian style
ReplyDeletei doubt i'll watch it again the story line been done over and over again (nothing against lesbians but give us something new)
....woody
The only lesbians I like are the lipstick ones who writhe in the sterility of a Sapphic embrace while I observe them through my monocle from a wing chair. Eventually they become frustrated and beg me to join them so that my Manhood may take them to the heights denied them by their tragic condition. I unwrap my silken bathrobe and [contd. p94 - Ed.]
DeleteI've downloaded the first two episodes but the story line wasn't particularly appealing (so its a 'when I get around to it' type show and everything I've read here so far is not going to push it up the playlist. The amount of miserable rubbish that is coming out of Follywood grows every year.
ReplyDeleteThe question that intrigues me is which one of the major US media companies will be the first to go under (go woke, go broke). My money is on Comcast with Sky ultimately being the determining factor although that said Disney in infantilizing just about every brand it acquires (Star Wars, Marvel etc) is doing its best to keep up.
To expect something new and original is too much. It's a genre zombie/end-of-the-world story, one of hundreds, and here's what I like about it:
ReplyDelete- The twist on the story seems new to me. The zombies aren't evil. The threat is much more subtle. The idea of a common intelligence (anyone can fly a plane, etc.) is intriguing, and how the protagonist is going to overcome the indifference of the "survivors" is enough to make me hang in there. The "woke" aspect doesn't bother me at all. We're not getting hammered over the head with an agenda - the protagonist is a lesbian, and so what? I don't see how screenwriters can win this one - whoever they choose will be criticised as being too representative of a social niche or stereotypical. Another white male hero? Oh, please! A black woman judge? And so on. It's the story, and the development of characters that matters, and that's done pretty well here.
... and as to "wokeness" - the zombies are all nice, considerate people completely tolerant of ethnicity, sexual identification or whatever, and vegetarians. Doesn't that spell W-O-K-E? The protagonist is awkward, prone to anger, confrontational - does that spell woke? To dismiss this as woke programming is to misunderstand it.
Deletethere's woke and then there's woke most of our country voted against woke they wanted it to go away anti trumpers and trumpets deal with it awkwardly angrily and confrontationally from what i've witnessed.
ReplyDeleteagain it's the big one for all if you disagree in this people die but not the heroine's new girlfriend the male survivor just wants to eat and fuck (who among us doesn't) a touch of soylent green
(another great sf classic make room!make room!)
again it's just an old story line updated
...woody
I don't get the labeling of "woke" and why its being used as a criticism of things and people. It appears to be mainly used as a means to justify hate and cruelty toward minority groups, the anti-empathy that the MAGA folks seem to love.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I have Pluribus on my things to watch list and am looking forward to it since I like Gilligan's other shows, and especially liked the lead actress' performance in BCS. Maybe that makes me "woke." Sigh.....................
Rhea Seehorn is terrific. She brings her considerable emotional intelligence to a fine script. True character, no stereotyping, fully dimensional, and not begging to be liked. And yes, sneering at wokeness in this is a misdirection of a very valuable sneer. Why is is getting the sneer? Because she's lesbian? There can be no other reason. Her sexual orientation is incidental, not political, as anybody's should be. Nothing to get upset about. Watched the second show and there's enough that's unexpected in it to make me want to watch the third, and it doesn't get better than that.
DeleteHoping to start watching it tonight. Toss up between it and the new remake of Frankenstein.
Deleteenjoy the series
ReplyDeletethe lesbian part doesn't bother me i think it just a gimmick
i myself have both lesbian and trans others in my household even got a little color here too we all love and tolerate each for the most part. maga i ain't i'm just cranky
"woke" though is something we all will have to deal with at some point good bad or indifferent
enjoy the show
...woody
...woody
Well, Mrs. D'raftervoi and I watched the first two episodes tonight, and it's good. Not "woke" to my eyes; to me that means characters are multi-culti to edify us and make a political point, they don't serve the tale. 10 non-assimilated out of 8 billion with a random shuffle n' draw, I wouldn't expect to be dealt a flush. It'd be a crap hand, most likely that you couldn't do much with...and that's what the writers did. None of 'em look like they're qualified to do much of anything. Of course, there's the five wild cards that don't speak English out there; they might be a full house of bio-tech experts.
ReplyDeleteI will have to review the Rick and Morty episodes with the hive mind "Unity."
In the meantime, let's see...what would I do? I'd have a million questions. D.B. Cooper! Front and center! Zodiac Killer, reveal thyself! Okay, which one of you bastards told my high school girlfriend that I was cheating on her? Jeez....I guess I could burn down the DMV...suspend my license will ya.... I bet I could get Paul and Ringo to do a concert....
*attempts elderly whiteboy high five with draftervoi, loses balance, falls into shrubbery*
DeleteWatched the 1st episode and am really intrigued by the overall concept. Gilligan really does like using NM as the backdrop to his stories. Hoping the rest are as good as the premier.
ReplyDeletewatched the 1st one. watchable is the best qualifier i can offer. very "body snatchers" vibe. it's disheartening that people are finding this show so exciting.
ReplyDeleteDisheartening? Why? You expected more of "people"? You assumed that "people" are as discerning as you, and are disappointed that they lack your critical perspective?
DeleteNow have watched both. Two things leap out to me. First, Gilligan is used to having the luxury of more time/episodes to fully develop characters and have the audience buy into them. This is just a 10 episode season. But, only 2 eps in and he has covered a ton of ground. I guess its helpful when all but 6 of your characters are zombies. Still but still he's pulling it off with a much shorter timespan. Secondly, I'm curious as to when he developed this story. Because its starting to look like one hell of an analogy to present day US and so many people just wanting to not make waves and believing that a life without personal choice is some type of utopia.
ReplyDeleteIt's "disheartening" that "people" are dismissing it because they are clever enough to identify the genre. Those only willing to enjoy something entirely new should not expect it from mainstream entertainment. Movies, music, whatever, it's all been done before. Every chord sequence has been repeated a billion times, every story told and retold. It's how well the same hand is played that matters. We're not going to get any new cards at this stage of the game.
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