This interview, exclusive to False Memory Foam©, took place in Sir Paul’s “Fortress of Solitude” - a partially converted warehouse in the meat-packing district of Poughkeepsie, NY. Paul was a gracious host, apologising for the mess (body parts don’t worry me), and leading me up to the roof, where he shook out some pork scratchings on paper plates and decanted vintage Cisco© wine into Flintstones© sipping beakers.
FMF: Cheers! Nice place you got here.
McC: [shrugs] I need to get away, sometimes. Be me, you know?
FMF: Okay. Can I start the interview with a question?
McC: That’s a question already.
FMF: Not that one. Another one?
McC: Is that the other one?
FMF: I remember you saying the Beatles [popular singing group - Ed.] should have broken up after Sgt. Pepper. I thought I was the only person to think that, so I was surprised to hear you say it.
McC: We went a bit shit after Pepper, to be honest. Yeah.
FMF: Sixty-eight was a bust.
McC: We didn’t know what the fuck we wanted to do. No direction. There was that home movie we did ... [clicks fingers]
FMF: Magical ... something?
McC: Yeah. That was embarrassing, you know? Everybody hated it. We hated it.
FMF: Some people like it.
McC: [laughs] Some people on drugs like it. Not good drugs. Prescription drugs.
FMF: So why did you stay together?
McC: Yoko, really. She was like the glue in the ... sandwich. Her and Linda. They were like sisters, very close. Lot of hugging and kissing in the studio, going to the loo together ... anyway. They could see we were falling apart, you know? Bickering and stuff. Poking each other in the chest, snide comments. They really calmed us down. Especially Yoko. I really fancied her, at the time. Anyway, she’d come into the studio and it was like this, this wave of peacefulness, and love, washed over us. We did some great work after Pepper, but it never came out in the form it should, there was an album there ...
FMF: This was the Aloha album?
McC: [nods] Aloha means Hello Goodbye, which was like our single. Great album. Great album. It was going to be assembled from stuff we didn’t record for an album, as such, you know? There was never any, like, sessions for the album, but there were all these great Beatle songs sitting there, and we were going to do that album to tie up loose ends. Go out with a bang.
FMF: So you were still thinking of splitting up?”
McC: Oh yeah. But on a high, as friends. Yoko showed us the way. Oriental wisdom. And I don’t think we could have topped the Aloha album. Well, we didn't.
FMF: So what happened?
McC: [grimaces] I had a bit of a fling with Yoko. You could sense the chemistry in the studio. It got to the point where it was obvious, like this ... thick soup you were wading through. You look at the footage from Let It Be.
FMF: Another shit Beatles movie.
McC: Yeah. All that atmosphere, that soup, that was Yoko and me, desiring each other, yet staying apart for the good of the band. Remembering our stolen moments of passion - you can’t forget that. In the broom cupboard. On the bus.
FMF: So why didn’t the Aloha album appear?
McC: It just sort of faded away. Linda wanted us to work on a [finger-waggle] “proper” album, this concept she had about a vegetarian landing on the moon. We agreed to a new album, on the condition it wasn’t about vegetarians on the moon. Other than that, we had no fucking idea where we were going with that one. [blows raspberry]
FMF: Apart from down the toilet. But you had a track listing for the Aloha album?
McC: Oh yeah. Acetate pressed up. And a cover, Richard Avedon took the photos, it was ready to roll. Roll and rock! Wooh! [throws empty pork scratching bag off roof].
FMF: Anything we haven’t heard on it?
McC: No. Yeah. We edited Hey Jude down, faded it out before it starts to drive you nuts with that ner ner ner ner-ner-ner nerrr thing. The album version’s much better. Shorter.
FMF: How about letting me post the album on the blog?
McC: Groovy. What’s a blog?
This is NOT a playlist of odd tracks! It is the album they could have released in 1968. None of the songs appear on other Beatles-created albums, and they were all recorded in '68. It is much more fun than the White Album, has more hits, and sounds and plays like an album, not a compilation!
Don't miss George Martin's take on it here:
https://falsememoryfoam.blogspot.com/2021/04/hello-goodbye-george-martin-interview.html
ALOHA means hello/goodbye.